Yes I have noticed.

I met with some clients today, and the conversation went to how the home life is? well I didnt go into too mcuh, but the clients W told me you need to swallow your pride and fight for her. It is hard to explain why that doesnt work for people who do not know these boards and the tactics used here by many.

I simply said, she has asked for a sep, D or whatever, and all i am doing is giving her space and working on me. Obviously all our W's are not the same, but I guess I feel that the things I am working on for myself, that actually upset the W is in fact fighting for her. I am not wearing armor and slaying a dragon in front of her, but in a sense I am fighting for her by changing my demon habits.

The client did say that actions speak louder than words, which is read in many posts here. So again in some form or fashion I am reminded of what I need to do, either by myself, other people or this forum.