2) Seemingly POSITIVE ones. So long as they are still in contact with OM/OW and lying to their spouse about it, these are all "bullchit spin" at best, and outright GASLIGHTING and LIES at worse. And the problem is, the betrayed spouse inevitably sees this as "baby steps!" and true marital progress, when they are no such thing. They can lead to horrible strategic and tactical mistakes, esp. if the BS doesn't have a good intel system in place. Reading my old journal yesterday, I was BLOWN AWAY at how stable I was able to be in the face of my wife's deceit, simply because I HAD INTEL TO SHOW ME OTHERWISE. This can't be overemphasized.
WOW...this sure does apply to my sitch! This is exactly where I've gone wrong because H has been acting/talking positively and I made the stupid mistake of assuming we were working on the M just to hear him say he still saw no hope the other night. (Well, maybe a slight chance... woo hoo.)
Puppy - sure would like you to expound on that or show some examples so next time I don't get sucked in! (On my thread though perhaps so I'm not disrupting CD's.)