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No, of course life with mom and dad is not better--he thought this was the answer, so what happened? Well, as we know around here, he blamed the WRONG THING for his problems!

i think things could have been worked out with a bit of effort.
it didn't have to be this way.
i kid you not .. mom and dad are everything to him. he vacations with them, he is at their beck and call. he talks to them multiple times a day.

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It must be human nature that people look everywhere else but at themselves to see what the real problems of their lives are.

I would feel superior, except..I did it too.lol. And so did you.lol.

sadly, i did. smile
i'm glad that the folks here let me vent it out like that.
they pushed me on the right issues and allowed me to get things out. this is way better than therapy.

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And these guys that were SO SURE are SO STUCK!!! My H saw a L yesterday. He expected me to crack (he did! OMG he was a WRECK!) I was so calm, it must have freaked him out. I made sure he knew that if this was what he wanted, fine. My life would go on. I expect all the weirdness you went through to come my way soon.

the calmer you are, the crazier your h will get.
when i was calm, h did everything he could to try to make me crack.
i'll be looking forward to reading your thread over in piecing.

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Your H can see you are doing better than him. Mine can see it too. Both of them have lost confidence because they were SO SURE. And they are men--how easy was it for your H to admit he was wrong?

not easy. i walked out on him one night because he got upset with me for accidently hitting the wrong button on the tivo and revealed a football score that he didn't want to know about - he was going to watch the game later. i went home after 3 hrs and he said he realized it was wrong of him and he apologized. that was the only time he ever said he was sorry.

if i know his habits, he will not say he's sorry. this d is a game to him and he wants to win. so he will do whatever it takes to make my life miserable.

when i gal-ed, he pushed for a d.
when i was happy with my family, he called to say he wanted to sell the house.
when i didn't want to discuss property division, he forced the issue.
he made up rules, kept rambling on about how i wanted 50/50, and whatever.
the more i shrugged my shoulders and said sure, whatever. the more irritated he got.
the more i didn't discuss the financial agreement, the more "gold digger" comments he made. i mean .. he just wants to win. and i don't play games like this.

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But you were friends first. And he needs a friend...

from what he's shown me so far, winning is more important than our friendship.