I forgot to mention a point of interest in how far the disconnect can go in my MLCer.

H's cousin was telling me that she was having a conversation with H about the trip he took with ow to NC in April. Cousin said to H you know you could have taken (my name) on a trip like that. H said to her yeah, but she's got all those kids. Cousin said to H those kids are your kids, too. H didn't respond.

I'm not sure how long ago that convo took place, but this was a man whose kids looked up to and adored him and he them. Talk about detachment!

BTW - H and ow went with her daughter, D's bf, and three grandkids.

To our experienced DBers, is this unusual even for a MLCer or par for the course?