i do that. but i think with people who may be emotionally abusive the rules are different. if i do that, he berrates me for half an hour, feels awesome, more angry and then hates me. my situation is no9t 'typical', in that he is abusive and narcassistic. i know everybody keeps asking me 'why stay then', but i'm here to try to save what's left of my relationship if it's possible, or atleast find out teqniques that work.