BeingMe, I hear you my friend and thankyou for your reply. It is just as you have said, and also the fact that because wifeys parents own the business and her brother runs it, then ex will now be losing face in front of them with son kicking in and not going. if ex had kept the arrangements that son had asked for then it may well of gone ahead, son is fed up of dad organising things behind his back and expecting him to just walk up to the plate and do as he is told, at the end of the day son turns sixteen in a few weeks and yes he will rebel against his dad, Personally I think this storm as been in the cup for a fair few weeks or even more, it was just this that as brought it to a head once again. ex said some really awful things against son and I it was just like turning the clocks back to five years ago, oh well I presume that is him gone again, back into his wilderness, we will live and get on with life, ex as chosen his, if he wishes to get in contact with either of us he is old enough and wise enough to know how to do it, but I doubt very much if he will at all now, ah well rip ex xxxxxxxx