Allen and Callasdad...I have exposed the affair to family and friends. Let me do a copy and paste of what I wrote in another thread..the question I need to ask..is the tactic different for an MCL or a WAH? the MCL folks say it is, that he's not in his right mind, depression..and all that. If I do what Callasdad suggests with the speech thing, and he is in MCL and doesn't know his a@@ from the hole in the ground..wouldn't that be shooting myself in the foot?