Jack..in an earlier post, you asked me what kinds of things I was doing to GAL (or someone did)..and I mentioned quite a few of the things that were suggested by others that I'm doing. The problem for me is that I don't really understand how to detach without letting the whole thing go..which would mean divorce. I have done some of the DB stuff, I have stopped the pursuit, the crying/begging/pleading/constantly talking about the R, I have found other things to do other than wait around for him, tried doing the 180s. And it seems to have just made him feel like I'm ok with what he's doing..keeping in contact w/her, not working on the M, etc. For some reason..I'm just not getting it. maybe someone can explain the detach thing in a different way..or how to apply it to my specific sitch. Gees, I feel like such a dumba$$ when I can't "get" stuff.