Originally Posted By: gucci loafer
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Gucci,
You and I have had this discussion before.


YEP.. We sure have..

And look where you are. Your wife is telling you she hates you and your wife says she is done and your wife is so angry at you that she is throwing and breaking things. Seems to me that what you have been doing isn't working. Not only that, the clock is ticking against you hour by hour day by day....



You are fooling yourself if you think that when you weren't having relationship talks it meant things were better. Very foolish on your part. Just because two people aren't talking about the relationship has nothing in the world to do with what is going on in the relationship. These talks have only verified how she still feels. Don't go blaming the talks as the reason things seem different to you. They certainly aren't different to her. I suppose now you will see if you can go another two months or more without a talk and then will tell yourself that things are better because you haven't brought one up. The facts are you are scared to let her go because you believe she will go. That is still someone trying to control


I am a literal person and I take most of everything in the literal sense. My W has not ever before or during our sitch used the words "I hate you."

As an example...In the past I would fool myself into thinking W and I had made progress. I defined progress by W opening up to me and not being as bitter. W would want to do things with me. W would find herself having a good time and then realize this and throw out there "I am still leaving." Then we got to a point where W would find herself having a good time and accept it as that, a good time.

Another example...W would not dare talk about anything that had to do with improving the our home. If I or her mentioned something that each of us wanted for the house to do to improve the house W would say "Does not matter I am leaving anyway" Up till this past weekend W was all about making our house a home. We sat down and spoke plenty of times of future plans about our home that carried all the way through to next year. No it was not a commitment to our marriage but it was a commitment to our home that she wants to leave so bad...


M: 27, W: 25
Together since: 01/31/00
M: 10/4/09 (8 Months)
ILBNILWY: 01/24/10
EA confirmed: 02/10/10 (Busted).
Road to Reconcile began: 07/10/10
Retrouvaille: 09/10/10