Thanks for the advice "gr8 day 2B alive". We have 2 kids ages 4 and 7. So far they have been coping fairly well, although twice now the 7 year old has told me she didn't want to go to with my wife because she's mean to her. I'm not the only one she takes her frustration out on, the kids get it too, but not as bad as me. Regarding my wifes current EA, it's not physical, I highly doubt anything will ever come of it, the guy is about 8 years younger than her, a college student (he'll be leaving their employer soon to return to school), I'm pretty positive he doesn't see anything in her other than friendship, but I think she likes the idea of the relationship being more than it is. I've caught several facebook private messages, no romantic feelings have been exchanged so far, it just seems inapropriate to me that she occasionaly sends messages to a single guy. My wife is also in love with the "Twilight series" and has unrealic expectations of what a relationship should be like. I think your comment about her being a stay at home mom for so many years and then going back to work and feeling apreciated is right on. A few other issues is that she has blamed me 100% for this. I have taken responsibility for myself multiple times, she hasn't said sorry to me once. I feel like my wife is going through life with blinders on. She has a crappy job making close to nothing after taxes and benefits, yet she keeps making comments about making big bucks. Most of the people she works with are either young college students or complete losers that couldn't get a job doing anything else. Before she moved out I once asked her what she thought a typical day would be like after divorce and she said, "pretty much the same as now." I was like, "wtf, you're insane", in my head, not out loud. In any case the counseling we did didn't help much, my sister has a friend who's husband walked out a few years back and she used the methods in the book and "won him back" so my sister ordered the book for me so at this point I have a little bit of hope and I'm looking forward to getting it in the mail tomorrow. I can look back over the last few months and see mistakes that I made, not that I did anything horrible, I did nice things for her, tried to show her how much I care about her, but it only pushed her further away. This is the hardest thing I've ever had to go through. I'm very lonely most days, I want my friend back. I think she may be dealing with depression too, both her parents are on meds for depression. It's like she's going through life looking through a lens that only sees the negative in everything; past, present, and future.