Originally Posted By: Allen A
Its not a pleasant way to put it, but he's implying that he's doubtful and sad and wants to follow your lead... just go to FT... if you keep goign to an IC he won't trust FT... its not the same thing at all...

Everyone tries to convince their WS to go to FT, its pointless, you need to set an example for them to follow... They can't act like an adult until they SEE ONE.

The voice recorder will help if he's calling her, wont help with text.. PDT here used it with great success as have others here... It only starts up when it hears sounds... works great

Kinda like a motion sensitive camera


Good idea. Although, texts are probably used more would be my guess.

I do think I have been doing pretty well at changing the things I feel I need to change - for myself - that were not good for my marriage. I'm getting my transcripts together to go back to finish my degree. I've been job hunting, but that's difficult with not a lot of work experience (stay at home mom for most of the past 20 years) and dressing nicer, going to counseling, being a pleasant person to be around, etc... While I'm sure he must appreciate these things, it has not brought about any changes in terms of hearing ILY or any affection. Well, other than him wanting sex every couple of days. He seems to appreciate my going to IC. I don't think he really knows the difference between IC and FT so he probably wouldn't see it differently.