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Sandi - At one point WW said "I need to decide if you are worth that" when we were discussing the boundary. I also got WW to admit that her affair was the first selfish thing she has done in her life only after I reminded her that not to long ago WW told me "I finally did something for me" and that she lied to me, our DD's and my parents so that she could spend the night in a hotel with OM which she claims nothing physical happened.


Yes, it's like she's choosing between you & OM and she's telling you that she isn't sure if you are worth giving up her other (fantasy) life.

She is bouncing all over the place b/c she's acting out of emotions....and her emotions are out of control. At this point, she really doesn't know what she wants.

I think the groveling days should be over, don't you? Never saw a man grovel and appear sexy at the same time.

Since she wants you out of her life, maybe you should stop talking so much about R and more about moving forward. With all that you've told her, she's convinced you are down on one knee (in her mind). Even if she says otherwise, she knows you still want her back. Maybe she should wonder if her prayers have been answered and you really are out of her life. Maybe going dark would be a nice change of pace.

Has any type of plan been set up for child visitation? As long as you and W are in the mist of exchanging the child, it always opens the door for R talk. Is there anyway that could be done without seeing/talking to her?


It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!