Originally Posted By: braveheart
1000 ships, nah, I don't beat a dead horse, in fact, someone brought this thread back. If people will read my posts, I am very helpful with new posters. I am very sensitive to their situation, and I offer advice to help.


I agree. Most of your adviced is very helpful and focused on the LBS which is good.

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My post was designed for someone who has been doing the same things year after year and nothing changes. In my view, that is not standing, that is someone who is stuck. I am not opposed to standing, I think that just about everyone should do it. I just feel that after a while, it gets to the point where you don't move forward with your life.


Every one becomes stuck at some point in time throughout this. Neither the LBS or the MLC'er just breezes through this. It's a part of the process. How long depends upon the person.

How long is too long? It's different for everyone. It's personal.

Yes, it makes no sense to do the same things over and over again. That is stuck and not healthy.

We are all different. We all have a little different spin on things based upon our own experience.

I know it's not my place to tell a person when to move on. Especially when all I really have to go on are little paragraphs posted here and there. Given the fact that mlc can last for years and or a lifetime, how long is too long?

There are NO clear answers here, only OPINIONS and personal choices that will always differ.

It's all about personal choice and control and this is where I sort of scratch my head whenever this discussion gets resurrected.

It's not our place to impose our opinions on such a personal and important choice.

That being when to move on.

By all means help them if they are stuck, but to tell them to move on. That's their choice and it's totally out of our control.

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I will sum it up like this. My definition of stupid is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.


I get what you're saying and I agree one hundred percent.

Doesn't the same apply by telling someone over and over to move on and expecting them to listen. smile

In fairness, braveheart, you didn't bring this topic back to the top, I just couldn't resist giving you a hard time.



Don't stand still.