1000 ships, nah, I don't beat a dead horse, in fact, someone brought this thread back. If people will read my posts, I am very helpful with new posters. I am very sensitive to their situation, and I offer advice to help. My post was designed for someone who has been doing the same things year after year and nothing changes. In my view, that is not standing, that is someone who is stuck. I am not opposed to standing, I think that just about everyone should do it. I just feel that after a while, it gets to the point where you don't move forward with your life. Its those types of people who end up bitter, because they have spent so much time waiting and their spouses didn't come back. 1000 Ships, I will sum it up like this. My definition of stupid is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.