Just as I finished the above post the advice a friend gave me a while back came to mind. You see, the last time I had an interest in a woman and we were having coffee, walks in the park etc (yes, it was the wrong time and in hindsight I should have NOT done it and I wasn't being honest with myself about it) this friend advised me to "bang her now and get something out of this before it blows up in your face" It's always great to talk things over with the guys, you get such deep insight into the mysteries of life. I hope you DBers will do me better. Sorry, I know you'll do me better!