Newmama- I'm not totally giving up...I want to try...I'm feeling hopeless, and like I have tried in vain already......I'm looking for something to tell me that things will change...

My H is trying, too. It's just that he is who he is, and I am who I am.....we don't seem to click in that way a married couple should. I don't know.

Pup, you out there? How are you and your w doing? We had similar issues I think.

M 39
H 39
1 son, 7

Multiple affairs before/during/and after separation, came clean, went to Retrouvaille, forgave each other, Piecing for over a year, same problems exist, back to counseling