Thanks, Sandi. I am so unhappy. I'm at that point that I remember hearing other people come on here and say, and my response was not to give up...etc.

When is it ok to move on? If it weren't for the fact that we had problems from the first year of marriage, I wouldn't feel this way. If it were a matter of "getting back the love we once had" that would be different. Our marriage has been a sham since day one. We are comfortable together, we are good friends, but our marriage was never the way it should be. I kept trying to say it was getting better.....but to never "connect" deeply with your spouse and to continue to live this way is cruel.


M 39
H 39
1 son, 7

Multiple affairs before/during/and after separation, came clean, went to Retrouvaille, forgave each other, Piecing for over a year, same problems exist, back to counseling