Glam. I can see what you are saying, I just cannot share it. As far as forgiveness, I have none for people who abandon children. Does that make me a bad person? If it does, so be it, but someone who walks off and leaves little kids is not worthy of much in my eyes. Yes, I do believe they should pay for that for the rest of their lives. I guess my outlook on this stems from my father leaving us, then my XW leaving the kids....... Have I forgiven her? Nope, and never will. Have I moved on? Yes, I have met a wonderful woman that has taken my kids as her own, I intend on marrying her in the near future. I don't sit around and think about my XW, in fact, she is dead to me and the kids. Did I want it that way? No, it was HER choice to do what she did. She is an adult and able to make her own decisions. Will she regret them? Who knows and who cares. All I know is this; I told her when she made her choices, she would have to live with them, and if in the future she tries to contact me and the kids, she would face DIRE consequences from me. I don't contact or bother her in anyway, but if she does me, it will be the saddest day in her life. I think part of the problem with a lot of people on this board is they try to analyze everything, make excuses for bad behavior and choices instead of calling a spade a spade. Anyway, that is how I feel about things, I know I am in the minority with it, but we are all entitled to our own views!