Hi Aphrodite, I will be lurking on your thread with great interest.

I too DBd before--6 years ago I got the ILYNILY speach. I, at that time, didn't know my H's LL either--and I never asked him to take the test--I just read the book and "knew" what he was pretty quick.

I made a ton of changes and our R was pretty good up until a remodeling project a year ago put us into a bad place--with me wanting to leave this time, since he had said before that he would never again go to a C. He was just a miserable person and then he went after (verbally--very ugly stuff) our 14 yo S.

(My H can be very verbally abusive--I didn't deal with that before when I was DBing, but I have been dealing with it now).

So this time I sort of initiated it, but it seems my H is now the one less interested in repairing the marriage. A couple of weeks ago he said he was going to see a L, but then he never did (I know how to detach, and it did seem to shake him up when I told him basically "fine" to his going to a L).

We have not had sex for 4 months now. H never touches me, never says ILY, he does nothing (although he did say he would see a C, and we did for 2 months).

He HAS completely done a 180 with our S. They are like the best of buds now, doing things together and going on outings. They sometimes include me, but more often do not. H is taking a vacation with S this summer with some (guy) cousins. I am glad they are going, but the C said I should have my own vacation with S, and my H will not let that happen.

So I am curious about your LRT, which I have been thinking of doing--basically I am doing ALL the work AGAIN, and I am sick of it.