Ellie:

thanks, but situation slightly more complicated than that. He has not asked me or kids and I asked him last week what his plans were, stated what I would do barring any other options, and he did not ever ask me to his folks for dinner. I truly believe this is their home and therefore thier place to invite me or not. His mom will be making all of TG dinner except the turkey, which I have ordered as stated above. My mil has never really cared for me, so it's not like I can just assume that I can come if I want. Now, on the other hand, if he or his mom was to call and invite, I would go if my H said A-ok.

It is just so hard with these boundaries that are definitely there, but just invisible and always moving.

oh, and just to reiterate, when we were discussing it at my initiation, I asked him to see if his parents would like to join us for TG dinner out. His avoidance on this issue led me to believe that he did not really feel comfortable spending the holiday with me.

Still, in a way, I believe that the WAS has to see that there are consequences to splitting up a family. If I make it too easy on him, what is his incentive to give up the life he is leading now.

Am I way off base here?