Thanks Alice.
I have the book, bought it about the time I registered here. It helped a little, but not much. MrsGGB as far as I know has never looked at it, in fact I think she passed it on to a HDW friend. I've also got a stack of R books including Passionate M, 5LL's, NMMNG, and about a dozen others that I've read cover to cover.

Talking to her, part of the problem is she doesn't like the out of control feeling leading up to an O and that makes her panicky, which in turn makes her try to shun it.

She's in IC now, has been for 2 years. Doesn't want to do MC while she's in IC. She's got self esteem and body image issues as well. She also does not reveal herself much, says to be afraid that I won't like her if I knew all of her.

Been working on the non-sexual for a long time. It only goes so far and seems to fill her needs but leaves me high and dry.

My sitch is married 23 years, 6 kids S20,S17,S13,D12,S6 and S5. Catholic. She's a SAHM by choice, previously in an IT profession. We both have technical master's degrees. I work from home with an engineering design consulting business. Sex has been an issue since we got married, but I didn't get vocal about it until about 6 years ago. Lots of buried hurt and resentment built up there that I can't always let go of. We've also got communications issues, attempted mind reading on both parts. So yup, we are a mess and it is amazing I suppose that we've made it 23 years.