Shel, don't... they mean well, they really do.

I have found that the long threads that some of the women write are NOT followed well--they get mad at the guys and the guys stop following.

But the guys have SO much to offer--they pick up how to do this QUICK. They won't hold your hand and say "there there dear". They WILL challenge you and if you follow them, they will quickly assess what you need to do.

I am too wordy on my thread to get them to follow.lol. But I read them and absorb them and LOVE their directness.