Originally Posted By: DaddyLongShanks

What was "it"? Being cheated on? Or a combination of her pulling away and cheating on you. Was she also echoing a negative sentament on you at the same time?


No, what I meant by "it" was 'talking to her friends' about me. Didn't know about the rest of it either, heheh, but I meant talking to her friends about me in this instance.

Originally Posted By: DaddyLongShanks

So she started hanging out with these females who didn't like her at first.


I don't know what they thought of her at first, only that she didn't think much of them.

Originally Posted By: DaddyLongShanks

How did they lure her in, and where they still hanging around after the house was broken up?


I have no idea how, or even if they "lured her in" so-to-speak. They worked together in close proximity, and having been in work environments myself where one works in close proximity to others, I suppose it just sorta "happened". That's just speculation on my part though. Who really knows? And yea, they were around for awhile after it all fell apart, though eventually they had some sort of falling out. It was probably only a matter of time, since my ex wasn't by nature their "type" These girls really were nuts, I'm talking "Jerry Springer" nuts too.

Originally Posted By: DaddyLongShanks

Many of these friends around for when the house is being broken up split once the work is done.


Well I don't believe it was any sort of preconceived scheme on the part of the "whack-sisters" or anything to simply 'destroy a marriage, then move on to the next victim" thing.

Originally Posted By: DaddyLongShanks

So being more demanding in the situation would have helped you?


I don't know, really. More 'demanding?' Demanding stuff rarely works well for any life situation, so probably not. But yes, I think I probably should have put up more resistance, in hindsight. Probably should have asserted my misgivings about her hanging with these troublemakers a bit stronger. I've never been one to tell folks who they can be friends with, other than my kids when they were younger. But sometimes what seems right isn't. I should have been more assertive. These girls were nuts, and she did have enough sense I could likely have made a decent case for her curtailing her activities with these moronic white trash nutballs.

Originally Posted By: DaddyLongShanks
. . . Or did it matter since she was not listening by time she got deep into it.


I'm not sure what you mean by that really, DLS.



Originally Posted By: DaddyLongShanks

So looking back are you saying there was nothing you could have done or it would have been too complex? What did the problem look like looking back ( define the problem )?


Oh no, I'm not saying at all that there aren't things I could have done, nor am I saying it was too complex. I'm not sure you're referring to my breakup as a whole or are we still talking about her talking to her friends? Not sure how to define it, or even what you want me to define, really.


Life may be short, but . . . well . . . it actually IS short, now that I think about it . . . . particularly when compared to planetary formation and stuff.