Originally Posted By: robx
Originally Posted By: Steve McQueen
If your wife is fingering you ....


Steve what else saved your marriage, don't hold back, tell us, especially when you're talking about wive's "fingering" their husbands LOL!


Originally Posted By: Bummedout
I'm looking to hear peoples actual experiences with attempting to mitigate damage relative to their discussions with friends.

Sure. I am egotistical enough to tell you a personal story.

I have no idea what my wife's friends were discussing with her. I imagine they were getting effed up and saying some effed up things. I'm sure they had her convinced the single life is pretty good. I'm pretty sure the lesbian friends were telling her, he's bad. They didn't like me one bit. One of her divorced friends did; told me how hard it was to be a single mom, how hard it is to find good guy, how maryelephant was confused, trying to find herself, how she'll have to find out the hard way. I wasn't going to touch that one. I figure she didn't talk to my wife about me too much. Maybe, she did. They don't go out drinking together any longer.

When my wife, maryelephant, developed some new "interests," I taught, mitigate LOL, litigate and started preparing for that. Years and years of nonsense, I had enough. I started putting money away, sold off things I didn't need anymore; I interviewed divorce attorneys, decided I was going to have an incredible second degree black belt test and showcase my talents as a martial artist. and did. I was doing more sit ups then Brittney for months and months and months. puked up petrone. took a leave of absence from my career, went back to the basics and started teaching Biology and Math. Picked back up old hobbies and introduced them to the kids. etc.

I still cared about her. No, I love her. She is my best friend. I didn't say anything to her. Didn't bother to remind her how important our marriage was or how much I loved her. Maybe I did. I think I once told her, I love you but I am not in love with you anymore. I just let her be free. Sometimes people just need to figure things out for themselves.

Do what you want its your life.

I will live mine. Dated my hairdresser. Met Jolene and had a fun time. She was weird didn't know what she wanted. Trying to find herself maybe or pushing her husbands jealousy buttons, who knows. Who cares. Maryelephant didn't see that one coming and she back pedaled quite a bit. She started talking relationships, good time afternoon sex, starting over again. Could have been a divorce busting success story.



Somebody on this board told me:
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Remember.. Your lines in this movie are now the ones of the WS. Her lines will be the ones of the BS. If she doesn't memorize and say her lines correctly (i.e. says it isn't working or doesn't know how she feels etc.) THEN you just agree with her.("I feel the same way. I agree this isn't working) If she says them correctly, then you keep playing your WS part. ("I don't know how I feel, this wasn't working, we argued too much, etc.")

I found that very interesting, it described me as a matter of fact, however my part in the play for today is:
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Donal Logue from The Tao of Steve - "Steve is the prototypical cool American male. He's the guy on his horse, the guy alone. He has his own code of honor, his own code of ethics, his own rules of living. He never, ever tries to impress the women, but he always gets the girl."

She never did say what I wanted her to say, acted alittle bit differently, but not really like someone I could convince myself I wanted to spend the rest of my life with, and then she got strange again. Boom. That was it. I was done. You want the house? No problem. Sold. You want a boyfriend? No problem. Good luck. I'm still young, semi-good looking, ambitious... I wasn't going to let anybody Else's life stand in the way of mine. period.

It could have been, the rest is history... we took a nice long break from each other.

Then, we started talking and dating again with no discussion of marriage or relationship problems, just having a good time, and when we weren't together still had a good time. Living our lives, learning, doing interesting things and interacting with interesting people. I noticed that neither one of us focused on the negative, we didn't try to control each other, didn't bother arguing, luckily we are very sexually compatible, and as long as we stayed interesting and attractive to each other, we kept wanting more.

We got to a pretty good place together, then she found out she has cancer and we are scared and confused, but surviving.
Some of you might not like a word I type but I am glad I did everything I did as counter-intuitive as it may have seemed.

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Sometimes I think it's a sin
When I feel like I'm winnin' when I'm losin again