No R talk unless that's what she wants, and then listen and if possible affirm (e.g. "I understand", "I am sorry you feel that way").

If you want to push her away, I suppose you could do R talk to death, and eventually you will both get sick of that tug of war.

Right now, your focus should be on improving your own life and building your own happiness. You have to detach. I don't mean you don't care, but stop trying to fix things in her or get her to see stuff. You can't fix anybody buy yourself, and nobody is going to make you happy but yourself. Relinquish trying to control others or letting others control you.


By your own admission, you haven't always been the best listener or understood your wife's needs (no big deal--people make mistakes), so if she's telling you she wants out of your M, how is trying to convince her that saving your M is the way to go any different? Let her come to you with the R talk, and then do not get locked into a battle of wills.


M-47,W-40,No kids
D-filed 5/27/2010
Piecing - 10/21/2010
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