You know, Pam, some men actually need quiet spells of doing nothing with no conversation. My H can be an expert in that, especially in really long car trips, or relaxed Sunday afternoons.

I somehow got trained since childhood into keeping a soft flow of conversation, as if silence were bad. At first when we were dating I tried, but after a while it went nowhere. So now when we go on a trip we just watch the landscape and think our own thoughts. And, guess what?, when one of us actually talks it is usually to say the same thing the other is thinking (no mind reading involved). Our train of thoughts run parallel!

So our car trips are our mini-mental vacations.

Do you think David might appreciate, say sitting on the porch with a cool glass of whatever, just gazing out and not 'having' to say or even think anything? The poor guy is out there working and doing stuff all the time. He might like the change...

Just a suggestion of course. It occurred to me when you mentioned he came by but was not very talkative. Reminded me of my H... He likes the sound of silence... especially if he is not feeling quite up to par.

Of course I may be totally off base here...

I liked JJ's idea of the dedicated but restricted-timewise meetings.


"You don't throw a whole life away just 'cause it's banged up a little" Tom Smith in "Seabiscuit"