I'm kinda excited too & your posts made me more so! My midwife is coming over soon to go through the birth plan. I love the idea of SOMETHING going to plan,ha ha! OW or no OW... I dunno. The thing about the OW is that the WAS is completely gone, but I guess you know why. When there is no OW you have to rely on other possible explanations and yes, I think that is very hard. Aren't you tempted G, to find out if your WAH has someone else? I know snopping is not what nice people do, but I'd snoop like buggery until I found out. Who cares about nice! Anyway, just a suggestion...