I thank you all for yor replies, son bit the bullet so to speak. I do worry about son bottling up all his feelings of anger towards the situation with his father, I can only see that son will indeed have his own mlc during future years and it is the last five years that he will revisit to sort his own childhood issues. Anyway for todays happenings, son sort of vented a little to me yesterday that he really didnt want her at his game, I told him it is time he vented his feelings to his father and stop letting his father crap on him all the time, son admitted that he is sick of his father tricking him into things, like he said dad didnt actually say she was going to the game dad is very good at wording things in a different way until son goes along with it and hunky dory there she appears. anyways after our chat son went away and texted dad to say he didnt want to go to tea, you see there he gets out of actually telling dad he doesnt want her at his match, but thinks because there is no meal involved afterwards that there is no need for her to tag on. ex rang son a couple of times last night on his mobile and son ignored the calls, I dont know if he genuinely didnt see or hear his phone ringing or not, anyhow ex picked son up this morning for the match, face like thunder, gave son a grilling about not answering his phone and says it is not on, took him to match and dropped him back home/ son says dad was in a right mood all the time he was with him, I told son not to worry it is just because dad hasnt had his own way and that son has stood up to him for once. asked son if wifey had been to match and he said no she hadnt been. so that is a relief, lets see if now son as said no once if he continues to stand up to dad, or moreso lets see if dad stops bothering with son again so much because he isnt getting him to do things son is quite blatantly not happy doing, well done son I say, bout time you stood up to dad and not let him ruin your life anymore, x