Thanks for the recipe Jiji. What's with all the grams and such I may give it a shot and see what we come up with.

I believe what that book says about the whole family being happy when the parent's sex life is good. When we were doing things, her co workers could tell when we had a session. The kids used to say that mommy was real nice after you guys go into the room and do whatever it is you do in there. I think they have a clue now.

As far as shifting ways to do things, I would be up for that if the W was doing that. I'm not blaming you for you efforts and this isn't a put down. But maybe you should call your shot before changing. It's flexible but....

How much input does he have on the moves? Is he up for checking out a book on the subject? That might help him a bit. I wish my W was more agressive. I've asked her to be in the past so what you're doing isn't bad. Maybe you can come up with the ultimate move and start and stay with it and blow his socks off.

I know you can.