W still wants separation, need to DB more

[MrBond]

Hmmm actually I disagree. I've been getting quite alot back from my W TUVM. : )

gucci, I don't know where you get the impression that when people decide to stand for their M they have low self esteem. I definitely don't "need" my W and it is my choice to see what happens. Don't think that's low self esteem at all.

In fact, I think by helping my W through her depression is a sign of high self-esteem.

Again, you feel that those of us who do not subscribe to the "gucci method" are losers. Well that's a pretty narrow minded way of thinking if you ask me. In fact, you tend to attack those who disagree with you.

I tell you what. Why don't you go to the 'survivinginfidelity.com' forum which deals exclusively with OM/OW issues and see if the "gucci method" would work as good as you say it does. There's tons of people on there.

If you look at the ones that actually reconciled on there, I believe the vast majority of them worked themselves out through patience and compassion.

Oh and BTW. How is your SIL? I'm assuming you saved her M as well.