Thanks Onthemountaintop,

I just keep shooting myself in the foot. If the communication was good and verbally very good, I should have taken it as a sign that it was heading in the right direction and left it at that. Keep doing what was working. But no, I had to push things and it made her defensive and then she lashed out at me. I typed the wrong thing I meant MC instead of DC. I have a list of the other changes I need to make. One is to lose a lot of weight. I put on a lot during my depression because of medication and emotional eating.

I am worried though. If she is not really into the MC, and she does not make a real effort and it does not work, will she use it as a reason to leave? Say see it did not work because it would be better if we split. If she does not make the effort, then she can twist the sitch into what she wants it to do.

What do you mean by offer hope? It is funny because yesterday she said there is no hope. So what do you mean by that?

Also, how should I interact with her now? Should I be like I have been, upbeat and positive and happy and carrying on conversations with her like everything is OK, or should I be confident yet quiet and have a good time with my S4?

I do not believe that there is another man. I do not know when she would possibly have the time. I know that she still loves me and she tells me so. I just have been caught in the ILYBNILWY trap. I also know that she feels totally overwhelmed and not sure what to do. The house is a disaster area and could be used to gain federal funding and taking care of the kid and dealing with our problems is all taking its toll on her. Not to mention the pressure her family is putting on her. I know her sister says that she can do so much better. But she does not like me because I am not a cowering mess of a man n like her wuss of a husband. She would love to see us divorced and is doing everything she can to make it happen. I am sure she points out my family issues and my weight problem and tells her that she could do better.