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M: 32
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S:5
D: 3
D: 1
Together 11 years
Married 7
Bomb: PA/EA 8/13/09 (for 1 year on and off)
ILYBINILWY: 08/09

"The end of suffering happens with the end of wanting."
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Originally Posted By: gucci loafer
I would think twice about listenint to Soleil's advice..

The facts are that her husband even through her stuff out in the yard and was the one going to file..

She now wants him back..

THINK about that.


Well hot damn. Thank you.

Originally Posted By: robx
yes I agree, Soleil is a WAW turned LBW now.
She wants back


For the record, I left and it was never my intention to D, it was to work on our issues, etc. And that is where the difference is. But thank you guys for opening my eyes to how everything is/seems.

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Well, she did make a few very snarky comments at me today for being "mysterious".

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Mysterious is good but if both of you guys don't talk to eachother at all I can't imagine that is going to save your M. So if you want to wait for your date, then do it but don't seem disinterested in her when it happens.

Originally Posted By: gucci loafer
If you noticed.. Soleil left and her husband actually treated her terribly from the time she left... She STILL ended up being the one who chased..

You will quickly see that there are many men chasing, but very few having any success. Some are to the point that they say they are making headway if their wives talk to them nicely now and again. How sad is that?


Sorry for the hi-jack but what does this mean for me? Cause I am getting really confused.

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Whoah... ok.


So we got together on the spur of the moment for dinner Saturday night.

She broke down on me.


She said she is miserable. She said she doesn't even feel human anymore.

She said she hates me and has so much resentment towards me because I seem so happy. She told me the changes I have made are changes she wanted but she hates me for making them after she left.

She said she thinks I am no good for her, and cannot make her happy, but also said spending time with me makes her happy.

She wants to go to counseling... Individual at first, but she is open to couples therapy.

My head is spinning.

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Originally Posted By: konfuseeed
She told me the changes I have made are changes she wanted but she hates me for making them after she left.


She is prob thinking this way because she's not sure those changes will stick and that scares her.

It's good that she wants to get some counseling as opposed to saying hell no about it.

Small miracles.

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I can understand that.

The whole "hate you" comment kinda threw me for a loop. All I could say was "I see..."

Isn't it said that the opposite of love isn't hate, its indifference?

Well, she is FAR from indifferent right now.

I made another DB boo boo and asked her if she was even open to the idea of us working this out, and her response was.

"I would like to be someday, but I'm just to angry right now"

So... Not a yes, or a no.

Awesome.

We still have our zoo date in a few weeks, so I'm gonna chill here and leave her be till then.


Also.


We had sex.



Just thought I'd sneak that in at the end here...


I'm a terrible DB'er.

BUT!


She said it was "really nice".


So at least I was ok in the ol sack.

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Originally Posted By: konfuseeed
Isn't it said that the opposite of love isn't hate, its indifference?


Yes.

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Also.

We had sex.

Just thought I'd sneak that in at the end here...


LOL. Sneaky! So where is she living now? How much contact do you have with her?

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She lives about 15min away from me.

We talk regularly, and its looking like right now we see each other once a week or once every 2 weeks.

It looks like were going camping together towards the end of may, so that should be good for some bonding.

I don't really know how to deal with how angry she is at me. I have been just listening and validating and telling her I understand why she feels that way.

She told me she basically hates me for becoming the man she wanted me to be when we were together.

I'm hoping that staying consistent with my actions and with her will help the anger pass.

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Originally Posted By: konfuseeed
I don't really know how to deal with how angry she is at me. I have been just listening and validating and telling her I understand why she feels that way.


That's the best way to handle it.

Originally Posted By: konfuseeed
I'm hoping that staying consistent with my actions and with her will help the anger pass.


This is spot on. Hot and cold is not going to make her feel secure with you so you need to be consistent.

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