Thanks Jiji: These qoutes show me that at least this guy is happier and has things moving in the right direction. It sounds like he is a long way from the mountain top, but he is climbing. If nothing else, this gives me more encouragement to at least develop a problem solving strategy with my wife. There has been very little conlict in our marriage, so most of our conflicts were with outside sources, which usually means being on the same side of the issue. Now we need to develop a strategy to deal with conflicts where we are on opposite sides of the issue. Sounds like Nopkins has gotten to this plateau where he and his wife have acknowledged the problem and are working (very slowly) towards a solution. I wish I had followed his advice an attacked this problem 13 years ago when it started, it would be a whole lot easier.