Originally Posted By: Kelly23
James....Dude...take a chill pill!!!

You are stressing me out just from your posts. If you ramble like this in person, how in the world could your WAW deal with you? I am not trying to be mean but am going to probably upset you......

1. When an 8 year old misbehaves, there is a reason behind it and signing her over the CPS is not going to accomplish anything but more acting out. If you are as educated as you say you are, you should know that. If your mother was previously a social worker, she should have told you that. That mistake will cost you for a long time.
2. If you read your posts, you have a habit of blaming everyone else for everything...your wife spending money is your SILs fault, wife losing job is someone's fault, etc. Sh!t happens to us all. Such is life.
3. Your wife is 31, not 13. How can SD's grandmother trick a grown woman? Is WAW that gullible?
4. Are you going to get a job or go to college? You seem to be changing your mind all the time. You need to set some realistic goals.
5. Where are your S10 and S3? And when you say..WAW went to court with me so my mom did not have to, what did you mean?


Ill answer these by the numbers. I don’t ramble like this in person. When my thoughts hit on here I’ll just post how I feel at that moment. Vent whatever. Maybe I should make a venting journal and then an organized post on here.

1) Last March, when SD8 acted out sexually on the boys, we took her to childrens hospital to get her evaluated to find out if she had been sexually abused herself. SIL used to watch her and one of her friends (who I also know) was sexually abused when we were in Jr High when I went to school with WAW brother. This friend is also the mother of SD8’S cousin (who is also my godson). We did not know that SD8 had been around her. After the examination. A cps referal was given. They recommended cps observe her for 72 hours to find out what her mental, physical, and emotional state were like. That is all that was supposed to happen. Within those 3 days, cps came by the house and alleged neglect, abuse, and all this other crap. They also tried to make me a suspect. I gave dna, I did whatever they were willing to ask, but because of the past charge against me which had been overturned exonerating me over 7 years ago (nothing sexual) they still continued to focus on me instead of not only getting counseling for sd8 but for the boys as well. They even had it where I had to be monitored with all three children by WAW. They came back and made me LEAVE MY OWN RESIDENCE (even though I was on the lease and WAW medical POA) and started drilling WAW for 3 hours. WAW was already on medical leave from work (she has epilepsy) because she had been hospitalized 3 times having multiple seizures. The last time she fell down the stairs during a seizure and hit her head on our fireplace as well as on the floor several times and had a knot on her head. That happened about 2 days before she signed the temporary state custody documents. She had TOTAL MEMORY LOSS. She was heavilty medicated and they brought all these documents telling her to sign this and that which gave them temporary custody of SD8. There was NOTHING I COULD DO TO STOP IT.

2) The money being spent is WAW’s fault. WAW losing her job was SIL’s fault. We knew nothing about additional documents needing to be signed. We provided documents to WAW’s direct supervisor we filled out the forms. We provided the medical information. They stated that was all they needed. WAW supervisor is no longer with the company. She got fired because other employees complained about her. We found this out months later. When WAW went to pick out her check she still did not know she was terminated. She thought she was on leave until she opened her check last MAY and discovered she got paid for one day although she had almost 300 hours of sick time left before FLMA was to even start. We had already found a place to go. We were on the verge of signing the lease. Supervisor was angry because a complain was filed with the Union due to WAW being overworked (doctor told us this because Supervisor would always ask WAW to work 3 and 4 hours OT instead of others and threaten being fired) and having a seizure at work. Supervisor knew about it and still tried to make her work. I had to come get her and take her home and to the hospital. Our old townhome was not covered by state law apartment association. So when we complained about things being broken and unfixed (such as our refrigrerator and other issues) the leasing lady got mad, stated we did not pay our rent (which we did I have a receipt for it) and made us leave. She sent the police there and according to the law we had 3 days to move. That’s also why WAW gave custody to the state. We called her parents, my parents, the paternal grandmother and nobody wanted to take SD8 just for a few days to prevent her from going into state custody. While we got a new place. In the report, WAW mother stated if she loses SD8 it’s not her problem. There was also a cps report filed by SD8’S school because she had been absent a few days and been misbehaving and acting out at school. SIL had agreed to take SD8 to school since she did not live far away and SIL’S twin D9’s went to the same private school. WAW could not drive due to epilepsy and I could not drive until I got my eye issues resolved. My father was retired and was taking SD8 to school to help out but he went back to work and we were trying to get SD8 evaluated before enrolling her in another school or deciding if she just needed to be homeschooled.

3) WAW has epilepsy. She has been under doctor’s care for over a year. She had a nervous breakdown as well and was suicidal. She was given antidepressants and a referral for counseling. She had about 25 to 30 major seizures last year. They tried several types of medicine. Finally around August she stopped having them after a medical pill change. Then she did not have them again. Since she had no medical insurance she had to change doctors and go to the state doctors. They changed her back to the pill that she’s supposed to take with antidepressants and did not stop her seizures. They did this pill change in march. It makes her act bipolarish. It makes her irrational. It makes her depressed. But in her mind she thinks shes fine. She had two visits with SD8 this year. One over New Years (SD8’s bday) and the 2nd when she did not come back. Paternal grandmother convinced her to sign over SD8 rights. Even though her attorney, our counselor, both families and even the state were attempting RECONCILIATION. We were attending all those services to get her back. She would reside with paternal grandmother until we got health issues and job issues and a stable environment for her. We had been doing this for 5 months and then all of a sudden she just signs them away? Doesn’t make any sense. The grandmother was upset at them for giving us the services in the first place and said she would fight WAW tooth and nail for SD8. She also blamed me for everything even though WAW explained that it was NOT MY FAULT. The only thing I did was take her into the facility while WAW waited in the car with my father.

4) I’m going to do both. I’m going to work and then go to college online.

5) S10 and S3 are with bio mom. I’ve been entrenched in a nasty custody and financial battle for them although this crap with SD8 really messed it up because both boys are all over the report. WAW has done more for S10 AND S3 than bio mom has ever done. Mom was going to take me to court. WAW went instead cause she loves both boys. They both refer to her as mom and S10 wants to come live with us. S3 has been throwing temper tantrums because We have not seen him in months. I last saw S10 over spring break and he was extremely upset behind all of this.

The stress of all of this finally got to me and I had a nervous breakdown in September after ranting and raving at school. I was having diabetic seizures and did not know it. I did not know I even had diabetes. So now I'm alot more under control.


waw 36 (spiritual covenant and common law marriage)me 32
together 13 mos. Bomb dropped march 2nd 2010

children SD (8) S (10) S (3)
need help from anyone with my sitch