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We did all go on a nice walk as a family(well, all together anyways) with D8 on her bike and D2 in her push car. Wife showed some interest in my life as we talked while walking. On the way back D2 was walking holding wife's hand and grabbed my hand too. The both of us, Wife and I, walking our D2. It was so sad because I could tell what it meant to D2. She saw that I had a "boo boo" on my hand and wanted wife to kiss it! lol


That kind of stuff is brutal. My W was all too willing to do things like that, but it was killing me. I had to stop and push her away so I could start to heal. v1olin, your W sounds like she still has a massive emotional wall up around all this. Someday that wall will come down, but it could be years from now.

Saw a movie last night where a divorced couple who had to see each other again after nine years because their teenage daughter had run away from her Mom to be with her Dad. Watching those two talking made me uncomfortable. Old resentments intermingling with aspects of their current lives. Taking subtle shots at each other while also reaching out a little bit. Nine years is a long time, and there is no way I can possibly know how I'll feel after that long, but right now I sure can't see myself ever talking to my STBXW like that.