It's funny when I think about his short replies. IF he was GAL, wouldn't people tell him to make short replies, focus on content, etc?

I'm sure that doesn't make it feel any better...

It seems good that you're not rushing the agreement so you can clear your thoughts and nothing becomes "legal" too quickly (giving him time to reconsider). Why rush it, anyhow?

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i could ask for one session for the sake of closure, but, i don't even know if he'd be open for that or what good it would even do. he is so far gone at this point...


Would it hurt to try? You can give him more time, but so far, that seems to be hurting. He had time to reconsidering moving, but he did. He had time to reconsider MC, and that led to him pulling back.

What could happen if you asked?
He may say, "I don't ever want to do that again, even for you."
OR "Why bother"
OR "OK, but I'm afraid of the past hurting my progress now"
OR many other things.

But what could happen if you didn't ask?
He may say, "She got the point that I'm moving on...good for her"
OR "I miss her, but I've screwed up too much and she'll never really forgive"
OR "Why didn't she demand it? I must have been an as."
OR again, many other things.

Going through the options, and knowing many others could happen, I would ask yourself again, what is the harm in demanding or asking? If he'd give you just one weekend for Retrouvaille, I really think it would turn him around. He's a creative guy, many variations can happen.

Think back, didn't you ever get him to do something he was set against? He has the right to reject anything. But if your own hurt casts you into a shell of self-protection and giving up, you would never know if there was some hope.

As an ADHD man, I think demanding it like, "If you don't" will be hard to take. But, "Please, I'm telling you to remember one good time and give me a chance - I am not desperate, but I do love you very much and I am sure we can be very, very happy if we live, work, and play together" or any variation. YES, it is "begging" and "pursuing". But so far, distancing hasn't helped, has it?

As always, this is your M.