No, I did not want to push at all for dates, we did have tickets to a comedian way before the bomb in a town about an hour a way with 3 other couples. She decided to go after the bomb, and we had a good time, and I was sure to be on that night. Life of the party and the party did not know about our troubles. Really had a good time. Also there was the trainer that I just hired with another guy. She was smoking hot, and since we were working out together at the time, we talked a whole bunch. Don't ever underestimate the power of another woman talking to you in front of your wife. Fear of loosing what you have is huge, and in general at least my wife is somewhat teritorial.

I waited to ask her out on a date after our MC told us it would be a good idea to start doing that once a week, this really took the pressure off of both of us. The "expert" ok'd it.

Our problems have been financial, had to sell the house we built There was also how I would not help her around the house, but The main reason (the target kept moving) was our sexual practices, I would want something every other night, and I kinda made her do it eventhough she did not want to, well she did it anyway but she started to resent me for it. It was all of this, but I had no idea how much this was all hurting her.

Now, I mostly let her decide when we "do it" (down a bit on average but twice a week is certainly not bad and she is enjoying it a whole bunch more) I help do the dishes, I make the bed and generally try to help her when I can. And, the econmics for my company are looking up.

I still work out, something I did not do at all before, I take care of the kids more, I help around the house more, I take care of business more, all of this is done not because I want to stay married, but because it is the right thing to do, I have learned that a good marriage is just one of the byproducts.

Slow and steady my man, slow and steady. No big loud movements, you are trying to coax a timid creature back.

Burt