Jackie..you are right..he does seem to be worried about me moving on...he knows I would not go out with another man even just as friends..we don't have any single male friends anyways..even if he d me tomorrow I am not looking to go out..he tells me there is no one else..no ulterior motives..then why does he think we need to do something legal about it?

I called him about the new roof we are getting...dd(21st!!) birthday in a few weeks..asked him if he still wanted me to get a card and sign his name..he said "you always have"I said"I thought maybe you wanted to get your own or sign it our yourself" he said "no..nothing has changed yet...you can get it" I just want to scream at him and say wake up look at what we had/have......great kids..stable jobs...we are better financially than all the early years of struggling...a great church and friends there.....wtf is his problem..and the thing is I can't change his mind...I can't start nagging at him...so what is left to try to bring him back????????? I took my diamond off yesterday..left a thin band and anniv ring on.....partly the diamond is too big for my finger with weight loss...partly I have to start letting go...I am even having a hard time thinking about giving him our bed.....

Am I fooling myself into thinking there is still hope for his heart to turn back to me?

I was thinking about talking to our pastor, but he talks to her and I really don't know where I would start...if he does talk to her..does she even suggest trying...he told me he is afraid if he came back the old feelings would come back..if he said that to her don't ya think she might try to counsel him into trying something different..like spend more time with just me...ask me out...talk more to me about everyday stuff..like how are things going...hug me because he wants to.....he is taking an easy way out and I dont know how to tell him that without really oushing him away.

I am sorry for rambling...but I see so many positives here between us..when I read others posts and hear the anger..lies..We don't have that..it is almost erie that we can get along so well......
any thoughts or a swift 2x4 for being so down......I wanted to know for along time where he stands......now I know and I don't like it......

Sue