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I agree with snodderly.

In the state I live in, leaving the house puts you at a major disadvantage, especially when it comes to custody of the children. They will actually use the term abandonment of the family and marital home.

DO NOT LEAVE YOUR HOUSE AT THIS TIME.

You need to stay the hell away from her for the time being. Do NOT engage her in any way, and start documenting EVERYTHING.

Do not be afraid to ask your lawyer any questions you may have. Remember he is working for you, you make the final decisions here. Keep a note pad with you, if a question arises, write it down. You have an awful lot going on and it's easy to forget things at times.

Do not be intimidated by all of this either. Lawyers know the law, but they are NOT the law.


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You know Eric, it's not like she didn't warn you.

They always do.

Be nice to them, apply no pressure, talk NOT of the old relationship = they will be nice to you.


Which of course we immediately interpret as some crazy kind of "baby step" back towards us.


Good God, we are such morons sometimes.


Get in touch with FIB, he can tell you lots and lots about orders of protection and the like.



Keep this in mind - she probably pressed you because you pressed her. YOU are the one who threatened to call people. So she threatened back.


You better get smart and you better get smart in a hurry Eric. I don't know if your problem is that whole hispanic male "I gotta have my respect" deal or what, but you've consistently allowed your emotions to open your mouth and fill it with stuff that eventually gets you in trouble. Well my friend, the stakes right now are these:


lose custody of kids, except for supervised visits
pay child support through the rectal cavity
pay alimony through the rectal cavity
give her your home
assume all marital debt



Yeah, possibly that bad.



Screw the "find your nuts" talk. You need the "find your brains" talk.



I hope I've pissed you off. I hope I've pissed you off enough to make you really STOP AND THINK about the stupid [censored] you've been doing.



Damn....


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Originally Posted By: Jack_Three_Beans
Cat, aspects of that Act are unconstitutional.

IT IS a good thing that has been at times used badly for the wrong purposes against good people.



Jack,

I can't disagree with you. And it is very unfortunate that laws like that NEED to be in place and that the people who do take advantage of them usually are not the people they were intended to protect.

Blanket statements about that particular subject really get under my skin. Sorry Kerry:)

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No response since 5pm yesterday....


...me thinks that's not a good thing...


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Eric, I'm praying for you.


I like all this empty space because i can now type out things that are important.

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All -

I am now listening to my L. W could not get a restraining order since she herself has said that I did not touch her.

I have instructed my L to file for a LS.
I told W today so that she was aware. She said I thought you said that you would not file for a divorce. I said yes I did say I would not file for a divorce and I am not. I am filing for a legal separation. I told her that as I promised I would pay down as much of the debt as possible, which is what I did. She pointed out that I paid more of my debt then hers. I reminded her that most of it is in my name and that earlier in the year i had already paid off 2 of her cards.

I asked her if she wanted to work on this and she said no. That she is done and she tried.

I too am done. I do love her but the fact that she is with someone else, wants to come and play nice W was just a little too much for me. Everything that she has done has been for her - now I really need to do for me. I am trying to do this as nice as possible and hope that it does not get ugly.


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Good news about not having a restraining order.

If your M has any chance now, it will be because of a desire on her part to change the direction.

You should just continue to play nice, but also to not be pushover. Any conversations with you W should be about the kids only and not how it relates to the LS. Let the L's deal with the tricky details.

I wish it would not have come to this for you. The sad thing is this stuff happens all too often.

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Eric,

Realize that you control the ugly. You control letting yourself get ugly and when she gets ugly...walk away!

I know the last few days have sucked....but the sun will rise again tomorrow.


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Eric - I know that this is not really what you wanted. Your response to anything your W says or does is to "stay the course" from this point on. Do not engage and only respond when it is safe. You helped me over the course of this week and I am praying for you my friend. Take Care.


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Eric, you are getting some sound advice. I would just say again: Avoid any relationship talks, and if she tries to drag you into it, don't let her. As long as she is with someone else you can't win. Watch from a safe distance what happens. Sometimes these affairs have to play-out before the WS wakes up.

Be strong


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