Saffie, If you want an end to the thread, talk to the person who opened the thread, I am, and have been, merely defending myself
Lotus opened this thread attacking the endorsement of Harley, Tuppy, Glass, and others in combatting affairs on this forum. She attacked these infidelity experts and their programs in favor of a program that the owners themselves publically acknowledge is ineffective in combatting affairs. To my mind, thanks to Puppy Dog Tails' again exhaustive research on this matter, he's offered us a slam dunk rebuttal and the dispute is closed.
Originally Posted By: Puppy Dog Tails
Lotus,
I've been through the Retrouvaille program with my wife, two years ago. It's very good; my parents have facilitated both it and Marriage Encounter weekends. It is NOT, however, intended for marriages where one (or both) of the spouses are having an active affair. They tell you that, in fact, when you register (or at least they're supposed to), and they usually refuse to accept you for a weekend until the affair is ended, and the couple is committed to trying to work on the marriage, unencumbered.
From the program's own website:
Before the couple can start the program, however, it's essential that both spouses be willing to work on saving the marriage. If one partner is unwilling to face the issues or is in denial, then he or she isn't ready to commit to Retrouvaille. Additionally, if there is substance abuse or infidelity, these behaviors must stop before the program is entered.
It's a wonderful program, but it doesn't really apply to adultery situations.
Puppy
This coupled with MWD' endorsement of Glass I posted earlier, but for your convenience I will repost here :
Quote:
So illuminating, instructive, down-to-earth,and inspiring that it truly transforms lives. Since no marriage - including yours - is immune to infidelity, this book is a God-send.
I will debate no further on this subject.
If you seek an end to the thread itself, talk to the poster who opened it.
I, for one, am satisfied that these forum members are "getting good marital advice".