I've been here since September,looking back my wife was emotionally gone the nite she said numb and no feeling and from then on it was turning me out, so I went into desperation mode.
I can look into the mirror and know that I tried, but I also know that every attempt was pressure.
It might be good for you all to get away for a bit in CA. In your case distance may help the heart grow fonder.
I don't see in your thread anyone filed and from what I've seen the men come around.
Women well I could be wrong but we'll see.
Cause like you said, my wife wanted us all to be together and until she filed, divorce wasn't anything she ever said.