Both of your words of advice definately make so much sense. I was here at the house today and didn't know he was here washing his truck. Oops, I didn't get to make a get away. Wish I had. He was mostly pleasant and we did some stuff in the yard and basement. Just typical house stuff.

Then he just decides he is going to leave and walks out. I asked where he was going and he said he was leaving because all I talk about it bull*@!#. I know I shouldn't have engaged him in all of his negative talking about how he thinks I avoid talking about our relationship, why he hasn't worn his ring, how he thinks he should file for divorce, how he thinks he failed our marriage, how he thinks we can't ever go back....he just went on and on and on. No matter what I did or didn't say pretty much it is my fault for "avoiding to talk about our relationship". Not his fault, because he was waiting to see what I would do. WTF, are you serious? I am so frustrated. I asked him if he really thought getting a divorce would solve all of his problems.... and that maybe he is depressed. He said maybe he is depressed but he isn't going to take pills, or see a stupid psychiatrist. I asked him if he was going to live his life feeling like sh!# then and he said "YES". Givingitmyall, you are correct that he isn't going to get help until he is ready. It is so true.

He also denies that he is seeing the OW and tried to tell me that she is already on the other side of the country. I called him out on his lie that she is in fact working at his work....

Ok, back to square one pretty much. I am just going to take your words of advice and I really need to just live my life. I am contemplating asking him to show me a couple of condos that are for sale (he is a real estate agent & we would have to sell our house). I am just going to have to go on with my life and maybe it will be better without his negative cranky attitude all the time. I think I will tell him the next time I talk with him that I would like to talk with him about anything and everything but beyond that I am just not going to initate contact with him....and see what happens.


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