rr22, thanks for putting it so plainly. These are things that I never knew about or were just crossed signals. You are soooo right. I've heard the "too little, too late" bit, too, but I think our most recent conversation got his attention. I'm not saying that he's changed his mind and running home any time soon, but he sees now that he was dead wrong about something he thought was a huge problem in our marriage. I hope that I'll keep learning things so that I can address them!