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Lotus #1951820 03/04/10 10:44 PM
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You two are really on the right track, and you're thinking about the right issues. I think you both will get a lot out of this weekend. We will be praying for you and for your wives to open their hearts to you.

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Well there has been one there certainly for the last 8 months.

Well Mountaintop tomorrow starts the big adventure for better or worse (pun intended).

We are leaving about 3 p.m.

I will pray for your weekend that it goes the way you desire.


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God willing, you'll get more than you hoped for, too. My wife bought a kinda sexy dress for the weekend...good start, I guess~

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Originally Posted By: Tryingbutlosing
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How was Retrouvaille for you?


It wasn't going as well as I thought it was while there. W and I did all the things to build communication skills and seemed like we were becoming closer. Then she shows me an email she sent to OM while pacing the halls on the Saturday night, unable to sleep. Saying how in every situation she could think of, she was more relaxed and calm picturing the OM in it than me.

I think she showed it to me so that it hit home how serious our problem was. For a while I was thinking that the presenting couples had worse problems than we had, so if they could do it, so could we. But none of the couples was IN LOVE with another person who was not their spouse. It was a kick in the gut.

That said, it helped our communication skills tremendously, and really helped us get over some of the awkwardness of sharing how we truly felt.


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Leave the laptops home.

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Yes, I agree on the laptops, my W intends to bring her's, I don't know if I should say anything such as let's leave them home.

How could I word that without being controlling?


By the way Mountaintop, great news on the dress, I'm envious, my W bought a special sack cloth with ashes.

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Maybe just tell her that you think you want to focus 100% on understanding her, so you're going to leave yours. She can deal with her side of things when she gets there.

My Retro letter said on it no laptops - I don't know if they'll "confiscate". I have a major work thing to do by Tues AM and I'm not even close. I'd LOVE to bring it. Not bringing it is a strong message to W that I want to discover her this weekend.

Coach: I'm not sure if your question was about TBL or not, but for me, I think it's a good question for me to put some thought to this weekend. I started trying to make a list, but I got the "but" word out in every sentence! The work of the devil or the work of a R in trouble, a problem nevertheless!!

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I don't want to but maybe I'll white lie tomorrow as we are leaving and say the same thing, oh they said no laptops.

Is that bad? If she still is in an EA I need to at least have the weekend with her right?

Also to anyone who did the weekend, is there any free time?

She is packing workout gear?

Man I have no stones here do I?

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1st bomb 10-08, reconcile 12-08
2nd bomb 8-09, moving toward reconcile 3-7-10
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You and your spouse: no kids, no pets, no laptops, etc. This is your weekend."

This was on the letter emailed to me. If you go to the online section that you log into with a password, you should find this info (I think)

I think it is fair to ASK, but it is up to her, I think. If she brings it, it is better than if she doesn't come.

I'm gonna guess your stones are just fine - maybe you've been kicked there a few too many times in the last year...if you had 100% sure evidence of an EA, my opinion is that you must say no to the laptop. Until then, do you think you could set that boundary without making her feel untrusted?

I've been exercising for a while - great stress relief and helps improve concentration (sorry...I'm a teacher...we're big on exercise!)

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Moutaintop

Ok, I will do my best at the last second to convince her of this. I will even leave my iphone home.

Exercise is probably the best thing I do right now, I am a triathlete and former NCAA runner (but getting a bit long in the tooth now).

I used to fear swimming after the bombs were dropped, an hour alone in the pool with your thoughts and no computer, tv, ipod, etc.

I started praying while swimming, now I just love it.

How far away is your location? What's the deal on the new dress?


TBL now equals "Toward Better Love"
M-44 W-42; 2 kids; married 11 years
1st bomb 10-08, reconcile 12-08
2nd bomb 8-09, moving toward reconcile 3-7-10
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