Well put Mountaintop, but I think and hope there are some kind souls on these boards who salvaged their marriage and are here to help others.

I can tell you this, if mine works out, I will be here to help others and sing the praises of this program. (geez aren't I a swell guy smile.

TBL now equals "Toward Better Love"
M-44 W-42; 2 kids; married 11 years
1st bomb 10-08, reconcile 12-08
2nd bomb 8-09, moving toward reconcile 3-7-10