Positive Moments In Time

[K4D]

25,

I think it would be very interesting to have a theological discussion down the road someday. Someone that has studied cannon law like you has very interesting insight and knowledge in those areas that would be a very intriguing discussion and learning experience in my opinion someday. But I agree that this is not the forum for that.

I do have one question for you that you don't have to answer here, but someday I would be interested in knowing and why. Are you a traditionalist or a modern day catholic? Which way did you side on the Vatican II when they opted for the new mass as opposed to the traditional latin mass that had been used up until that point? I attend the traditional latin mass, but acknowledge that both are valid mass's. I know that the traditionalist were stanchly opposed to a new mass and that the modern day catholics many were actually opposed to the traditional mass that had been used from the beginning. Pope Benedict was one who was for the modern day mass during the Vatican II but did not agree to do away with the traditional latin mass as others wanted to do and has been a big supporter of at least allowing it to come back and grow again even though he himself is not a traditionalist mass wise.

It is interesting the divide it has created in the catholic church.

Anyways, that is something I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on someday, not here.

No, I never read Blue Like Jazz. I guess I just forgot about it with time. I agree that there is nothing wrong with reading to challenge your own faith. I myself not coming from a catholic background challeneged it before moving to converting to it.

But ask yourself why some couples, like my brother & his wife, both previuosly married with children, and neither of whom obtained annulments, were still able to marry in the Church with a full mass? Is it b/c their previous m's weren't valid to you b/c they weren't m in the Church, though they didn't bother getting annulments? Maybe. OR is the Church trying to be more inclusive and less rigid?

I don't know. It isn't for me to question the churches decision. I believe the church has become more inclusive and less rigid since the Vatican II. There is a great divide in the church right now between traditionalist and modern day catholics. There is great debate among them on more than one issue to my knowledge. I ultimately am choosing to accept what the church rules for my own M or any M for that matter.

Why does it matter in your sitch anyhow? You married your wife in a NON Catholic wedding, correct? IF SO, why ask about HER beliefs? Is the m invalid b/c neither of you considered it a sacrament at the time of m, and so you married in some other church? Regardless....

I am not asking her about her beliefs. I already know what her beliefs are. We both considered it valid at the time of marriage. But in talking to my priest, the church may not have considered it valid. When I got married, I did not know anything about catholic church law or sacraments or where we might fall in that picture. Nor did I care as I was stanchly opposed to anything catholic at that time in my life based off how I was raised by my mom and the arguments I was given by the church of Christ again catholism. I did not respect or consider the catholic church as the authority at that time in our life.

For me, your views have always been oversimplified and that's what makes you comfortable. Nothing wrong with that. It sounds like an insult but it's not. It's what you do and what you are comfortable with. I'm very comfortable with questions and unsettled matters. My focus is on my faith, not creed, and what unites, not what divides. I'm okay with some gray areas as long as my bottom line is clear, which relates to my actions.

Some people are comfortable with lingering questions. I am not one of them. I want to know for sure one way or the other for my own sake. It isn't to divide someone else. It is to know for my own peace of mind where I stand. I realize that not all questions in life can be answered at any given time and some will never be answered in this lifetime. But for the ones I can obtain definite answers on, I prefer to be able to do that if at all possible.

It is Friday night and I have my girls for the week again. Today I went and sat in a Toyota Corolla and a Toyota Rav4. I have to admit that I liked the Rav4. The Honda Civic has a bit more leg room than the Corolla so I will be leaning towards the Civic. But the Rav4 isn't out of the possibility also. I might go sit in a Honda CRV this weekend also to determine if I like that better than the Rav4. This is kind of fun gearing up for a new vehicle.

Tomorrow, W and I are going to take our girls to get glasses. We will end up splitting the cost of that.

Kevin