I am advocating supervised visitation that is kept to a minimum...

I wouldn't wait for physical emotioanl or drug/achohol abuse to start, I put an affair right in with those four...

I consider an affair just as damaging to a home as a bottle that's drank to excess, or any other addiction...

The advice is to protect the children, not to punish them... if a SAFE visit can be managed then I am all for a SAFE supervised visit by the abusing parent, but no more than that until they get their act together...