Thanks for responding. Yes I am getting counselling but its slow progress as up until a few weeks ago I just felt in "limbo". I have picked up a lot from the BB & now understand that this is not my fault, nothing I can do alone, need to be patient, show I still care but from a distance & hope she eventually sees a light. I have resolved to be a better father to the boys as I cannot agree with the immmoral stance W has taken & want them to understand what is right & wrong in life. I made vows for life - may not be able to keep them but it will not be my fault. I also vow that I will be able to look boys in the eye when they are older & say I did all I could