rr, I think you're right. Here's a tweaked version. I'm not sure about saying to go "only once" because I don't know how the IC will present it to H. I don't want H to feel blindsighted if the IC "goes there". And I think the IC's strategy might be partly dependent on what he gets from H's side so it's not necessarily the case the I can get the IC to nail it down before I lure H into the session.
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Hi flowdad,

My counselor believes that it would be helpful for us to meet with him to discuss the terms of our separation. Would you be willing to meet me at a session on [date + time]? If not, would you be willing to go to that session by yourself?

I realize that this would be about as appealing to you as putting on white jeans and going to a disco. I'm asking for this because more clarity would help me with the choices that I'm making as I move forward.

flowmom

I am really struggling with whether or not to go ahead with this. I think it's likely that H would do it out of a sense of guilt/responsibility to me (right after separation, H agreed with me in the past that I have a "right to know" what the status is between us, but I'm not getting much feedback from him).

PROs:
  • I might get some clarity as to whether H sees this as a trial separation or a separation leading to D (there have been mixed messages)
  • H might get a reality check of what a trial separation really is, and what people do when they're really trying to figure things out while keeping the door open to reconciliation
  • H might get a taste of an alpha male C who can take leadership and challenge H on some stuff...without it coming from me
  • it could create some hope in H that C can be effective in H's mind (I know that H really wanted the MC (Dec08-May09) to work...it sucked that our MC wasn't solution-oriented)
  • gives me a chance to show him that I am finally willing to listen to him and validate him without being defensive
  • it could introduce doubt in H's mind about galloping ahead with making choices that are damaging to potential reconciliation

CONs:
  • invites D talk
  • puts H on the spot -- if he's confused/not sure he'll be pushed into presenting himself as being more sure about D than he really is
  • it could be perceived as MC even though I've tried to present it otherwise
  • invites talk about the dating/sex that he wants to do...very tricky to know how to handle that
  • if I just listen/validate, it could look like I'm in a passive role, just waiting to hear about what he's decided
  • involves a lot of trust in the C...the C would be "holding the space" between H and I and if the C botches that, it would be damaging to our sitch


me: 42 | STBXH: 41 | T: 18 | M: 10 | separation: Jan 3, 2010 | they deserve better: S7 & D4
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