Need Help! - Am I wrong? Should I hold out Hope?

[ClingingToHope]

In my case, every time I thought I was making progress my W was working diligently to get D things going forward. So perhaps I'm not the right one to give advice ....

But I did pay for three Divorce Busting counseling sessions and what I learned there was ....

Be a world class listener. Don't jump in to make points. Let him do the talking.

Do not get roped into a D talk. I remember one time I was asking W about an insurance issue and she said to ask my work about something. I'm on her insurance so I said, "why, are you filing soon." She said yes and I didn't grovel or crumble. I felt good with how I handled it.

Dottie, my DB counselor, said I screwed up by being the one to bring up the D. I could have just said, "OK, I'll check with work" and moved on.

It's good advice, although in my case it hasn't helped. I don't envy you. These meetings are tough. I'm tired of "shining" in front of W. Next week I have to see her at parent-teacher conferences.

Just don't get your hopes up.